A frame-by-frame review of the November 4 8-iron swing at Mariners Point, measured with the full reference frame (grid, center lines and diagonals), plus the complete range-screen readout. First 8-iron report in the logbook.
Bottom line: a clean, high 8-iron. 125 yds total, 122 carry, 93.5 mph ball speed, a 68-ft apex and a 43° landing that stopped the ball within 3 yds. Contact was solid: the ball is airborne within 1/30 s of impact.
The swing repeats his recent irons: smooth, connected takeaway, hips that hold their depth, and a finish held for ~3 seconds. The constant is here too: the head drops about 6 inches by impact, and the ball launches at 22°, about 4° higher than an LPGA 8-iron. That extra loft is why this 8-iron flies only ~6 yds past his 9-iron.
Clean contact, balanced held finish, hips stable: the same reliable pattern as his 9-iron.
Keep the cap on its address line. The dip starts before the club reaches hip height.
Hands over the lead thigh at impact to bring launch to ~18° and turn height into distance.
| Metric | André (Nov 4) | LPGA Tour avg | PGA Tour avg |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ball speed | 93.5 mph ★ | 99 mph | 115 mph |
| Club speed (est.) | ~68–69 mph | 74 mph | 87 mph |
| Carry | 122 yds ★ | 130 yds | 160 yds |
| Flat carry | 122 yds | — | — |
| Total | 125 yds ★ | — | — |
| Launch angle | 22° | 17.6° | 18.1° |
| Apex | 68 ft (23 yds) | 26 yds | 31 yds |
| Landing angle | 43° | 46° | 50° |
| Curve | 22 ft | — | — |
| Hang time | 5.0 s | — | — |
| Proximity | — (no target set) | — | — |
★ first 8-iron report, so these set the baseline. Club speed isn't on the screen: at a typical 8-iron smash of ~1.36–1.38, 93.5 mph of ball speed means about 68–69 mph. The curve direction isn't readable on the panel (both arrows look the same in the glare), so only its size is logged.
What it means: launch is high and ball speed is ~5 mph under the LPGA average, so the ball climbs, lands at 43° and stops fast (3 yds of roll). With the hands a little more ahead (launch ~18°) and the same swing speed, a realistic target is ~128–130 yds carry, right at the LPGA 8-iron.
30 frames per second, so each time is accurate to about ±0.03 s. Takeaway starts at ~30.15 s, the hands peak at ~30.58 s, the club reaches the top at ~30.65 s, and impact is at ~30.93 s.
| Group | Backswing | Downswing | Ratio |
|---|---|---|---|
| André (8-iron #1, Nov 4) | ~0.50 s | ~0.28 s | ~1.8:1 |
| André (9-iron #1, Oct 28) | ~0.50 s | ~0.25 s | ~2:1 |
| André (7-iron, Oct 14) | ~0.47 s | ~0.23 s | ~2:1 |
| PGA Tour (Tour Tempo, "24/8") | ~0.80 s | ~0.27 s | 3:1 |
Tour figure: John Novosel, Tour Tempo.
What it means: the downswing speed is tour-like (0.28 s); the backswing is short and quick, as in all his irons. A slightly fuller, slower backswing (~0.6 s) would bring the ratio toward 2.5:1 and give the arms time to get the hands ahead at impact.
Nine key positions, filmed from behind (down-the-line). The target is into the picture.
Photos are numbered in the order they happen in the swing.
Impact close-up: ball at rest (72), clubhead arriving at the ball (73), ball gone (74–75).
Club: 8-Iron, as named by André. Logged as report #1.
| Measure (vs address) | Top | Impact | Reading |
|---|---|---|---|
| Head, height | ~3 in down | ~6 in down | Fix same dip as his 9-iron |
| Head, toward ball | ~3½ in | ≈ 0 in | Good back on its line |
| Hips, depth (toward ball) | ~1½ in back | ≈ 0 in | Good no early extension |
| Hips, height | ≈ same | ~1 in up | Good stable |
| Hands at impact | — | ~2 in fwd · ≈ same height | Watch could lead more |
| Club | Carry | Total | Ball speed | Launch |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6-Iron (best) | 146 yds | 150 yds | 107 mph | 20° |
| 7-Iron | 144 yds | 147 yds | 104 mph | 22° |
| 8-Iron #1 (today) | 122 yds | 125 yds | 93.5 mph | 22° |
| 9-Iron | 116 yds | 117 yds | 92.2 mph | 27° |
| Pitching Wedge (#3) | 113 yds | 115 yds | 89.2 mph | 28° |
The picture is uneven: 22 yds from 7-iron to 8-iron, but only 6 yds from 8-iron to 9-iron and 3 yds to the wedge. The 8-iron's ball speed is only 1.3 mph above the 9-iron's, so today it behaved like a strong 9-iron. Getting the hands ahead (less added loft) should open the 8–9 gap to a healthy ~12 yds.
Set up, then freeze the cap height before you start back: no sinking in the last second of address. 10 slow swings, then full speed.
Feel the hands over the lead thigh at impact. Target: 17–19° launch with the same speed.
Hit 5 balls with each and compare carries. Aim for a ~12-yd gap; it shows the loft is coming from the club, not the body.
Confidence: high on ball flight (range screen) and tempo (frame by frame), moderate on head and hip distances.